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Post by Darren383 on Nov 8, 2004 15:47:08 GMT -5
wow, just got back from Huntsville and see this post has 5 pages, so i figured I might as well post. Martin Connely slows down a half tenth, but he has to weight 50 pounds more at OSCA. Maybe thats it, i dont know. I do know that for the amount of nitrous he is spraying and for the amount i am spraying, a #4 line WILL NOT make any difference. As far as weights go, dont add anymore weight, if you are going to adjust weight, just take it off the big blocks. I honestly believe they are fair right now though. I really dont have a answer for the problem, but i do stand firm on the idea of a 6.0 breakout. Its still heads up, first to the finish line on a pro tree. Your not running against your time on the window. As far as people hitting the brakes, they better hope they have enough lead because they still have to cross the finish line ahead of the other car!
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Post by taylor568 on Nov 8, 2004 16:55:55 GMT -5
So is my little junk stang ,can run with yall its got a small tub in it what yall think ,its only a small block ford with a plate kit ,cant run super fast ,let me know what yall think ,81 mustang 3285 weight T-475 Roy Taylor
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Post by 93coupe on Nov 8, 2004 17:10:57 GMT -5
Darren how was huntsville anybody we know win
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Post by Darren383 on Nov 8, 2004 17:31:22 GMT -5
The race was awesome. Those guys really run their stuff on the edge down there. Nobody we know won, but James Sims did run a 5.55 on a 28x10.5 slick, but also melted the motor in the process. I watched him make a couple passes and the car looked really good.
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Post by Martin Connelley on Nov 8, 2004 23:54:27 GMT -5
Darren I agree with you on the weight . I think they are pretty close but a little help for the big block cars would be nice. And if they are going to change any weight lose it and not add. More weight is hard on parts. As for the nitrous line I tried this on back to back test passes and it did slow my car down .060. If it does make no difference at all why do you use a #6 and why do you care if they make that change or not. About the index, I am completely against that. It don't matter what kind of tree you race on or who gets to the end first, it is still bracket racing in my book and I personally hate bracket racing. I don't think anybody is really asking for a lot of rules. Maybe a single plate and if any type of suspension is going to be legal then make them add weight for it. I really don't have any ideas about the blower cars because I have never been around any. I liked the serpentine belt idea and stock type injection. Also almost any class makes a blower car weigh more than a nitrous car. Just a few rules would be better than putting an index on the class and telling somebody they could only go so fast.
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Post by Darren383 on Nov 9, 2004 14:29:23 GMT -5
Hey Martin whats up! The only reason I run a #6 line is because that came with my system when I bought it. It is just a standard big shot kit. I will run a #4 line if that is required, just didnt see the point in buying one if I didnt have too. No biggie there. With no more nitrous than you are running, i didnt think there would be a difference, but if you tested it and seen a difference, you prove me wrong. But think about it, only a half tenth? Is that really going to slow the class down. Like I said in a earlier post, Vern went 5.88 on a single stage plate, so i also dont think that will help any either. These are just my opinions and Im sure some people like them and some hate them. As for the blower stuff, i really dont see a good solution for that. I have been around some of that stuff in bigger classes (Jason Smith) and I think if someone showed up with one and had their stuff right, we could be in for some trouble. You can only add so much weight to one car without hitting the rest. As for the index, that was just a suggestion for a quick solution to a problem that is coming. I dont see that as bracket racing because you would still be racing to the line first. I watched the 6.0 class at huntsville and it was a very exciting class in my book, and they are trying to get as close to 6.0, not racing to the line. I might do some of that this year myself.
Had a good time racing with you this year Martin, you plan on doing much next year?
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Post by Bernard358 on Nov 9, 2004 16:58:13 GMT -5
darren hey man nice to talk to you again , but i have a question for you or two. The 6.0 in my book stinks. You are right you still use pro tree, but if i was in front of you and went a 5.98 and you went 5.99 we both broke out and you would win because you didn't by as much right? Well that sounds or seems like what they do in Bracket 1 and 2 right? I am not trying to get in any pissing match at all over this, but i do not want to bracket race. Like i said before i might be beating a dead horse, my heap might not even run that fast, but i do not want to use the brakes except to hit the return road. My last question why all the hype about a 6.0 in entry and why aren't they making index's for the rest of the classes. They all are about the same just different tires and stuff. Just curious and hope to see you at the track.
Later Bernard Newton358
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Post by 90stangNbox on Nov 9, 2004 17:04:04 GMT -5
Iagree with you alot Bernard. I just think there is a lot of fuss over what.
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Post by Bernard358 on Nov 9, 2004 17:35:37 GMT -5
90stangNbox yes i agree i attended every race except one this year to watch and see what i thought i could be in. I have spent several dollars and i am getting it ready for outlaw style racing. I really don't see what the big fuss is either. I mean let it be thats what makes if fun. I meet a bunch of nice people and talked alot with them. Especially darren he is a great guy plus the rest , but he is one that i always stoppped buy to see. Me and my buddy plan on bringing two more cars just hate to see a outlaw bracket class.
Later Bernard Newton358
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Post by 90stangNbox on Nov 9, 2004 17:43:47 GMT -5
like I said before I'll be there no matter what the rules are. I just state my opinion and hope for the best. I do agree that there are alot of great people that run down there and I hope all this fuss dosent make any body mad. Maybe I'll just keep my mouth shut and show up in the spring ready to run whatever the rules are.(LOL)
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Post by Darren383 on Nov 9, 2004 18:17:11 GMT -5
Hey Bernard whats up. Nice talking to you again and thanks for the kind words. With your question about the 5.98 to a 5.99 times, how about this. A 5.999 or faster is a automatic dq. Both are out. I know this sounds alot like bracket racing, and I hate bracket racing as much as the next guy, but I just feel this class is going to get out of control real quick and everyone agrees they dont want a bunch of rules so i just SUGGESTED a 6.0 index to keep the rules simple and still have a fast, competitive heads up class. Shoot me email sometime Bernard, would like to hear how your car is coming.
90stangNbox, you are not making anyone mad. This stuff goes on every year after the race season. We all suggest ideas, some like them, some don't. Dont hesitate to say something because you dont want to make someone mad. I would like to think we are all friends here just having a discussion.
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Post by Bernard358 on Nov 9, 2004 18:25:12 GMT -5
darren no problem and i will shoot you an email. Working on the car a ton and ups delievers everyday it seems like ;D. Hope to be fire the car soon wanna hear it run. Talk to you soon and i just hope they don't make us hit the brakes. But wait and see. Hope everything is going good for you and your wife as well.
later Bernard Newton358
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Post by Darren383 on Nov 9, 2004 18:29:27 GMT -5
Hold on there, she's not my wife yet! Lets not rush things, LOL!
I got a new email address, its now nosnova@blueriver.net
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Post by Bernard358 on Nov 9, 2004 20:06:35 GMT -5
oh sorry about that darren ;D .
later Bernard Newton358
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Post by Martin Connelley on Nov 9, 2004 23:34:45 GMT -5
Darren, according to any nitrous tech guy you would be right. They all tell me that the #4 line will not slow me down on my tune up. But, it did slow me down in testing. You know how this stuff works, what work on one car will not on another. But, if nothing is done with the blower cars we might need all the spray we can get. As for the single plate idea, I know Vernon went real fast and he should get a lot of credit for it. But, not everyone can go that fast with a plate. One plate is easier to tune than two foggers. And if they are allowed I may show up with a set. This would just make it even between nitrous cars. As for next year we plan on running a lot. Probable a full schedule with OSCA and all of OVOS that we can and Clay City Car Wars. And for me I just do not want to see an index. Look forward to racing with you next year.
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